Contacts/Candidates merge
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Can we please have the ability to merge the contacts and candidates. In many cases the contacts are also candidates for present or future jobs. Not being able to "link" a candidate to a company is highly inefficient. Most recently, I added a contact to a company and then tried to add that contact to a job order pipeline and was unable to do so.

Please help with this dilemma as I'm sure others have the same request.

Thanks!

 
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Adam,

Presently, our system treats contacts as contacts and candidates as candidates. We have plans to link them together at some point but for now you'll need to create a separate candidate record for that person.

 

Thanks Tony.

Having this feature as soon as possible would save an incredible amount of wasted time. Furthermore, I'm extremely confident the majority of your users agree. Users, please respond otherwise.

Just to confirm, I'm not looking for an absolute merge of contact and candidates, there are benefits to having them separate as you've mentioned. A "merge button" (such as: your "duplicate entry" or "merge sources" buttons) is all I'm really looking for here. Being given the OPTION of creating the same record in both categories is a big deal. Example: this is helpful if I have a contact record for Mr. Smith and receive his resume at a future date - I wont have two separate entries, with two separate notes, etc. As well, I would like to know what company that candidate works for and have this info liked (as it currently is ONLY for contacts - a shame). This is very valuable information (crucial really) - currently there is no way to track this and to do so is extremely time consuming.

Thanks again for your attention to this.

 

He's right.

Nearly all systems out there have 'contacts' that are either a user, candidate, client or combination of both.

For instance - it's very common a candidate would become a client once placed.

Also - i've noticed that with the Linkedin Firefox plug - it says 'add as canddiate' when really you should be able to add candidates or contacts from Linkedin.

This is fairly fundamental stuff within recruitment so i'd expect to see this fixed sooner rather than later.

I mean - what happens if you have a candidate - who also has a record as a client at the same time - a very important client. Then one of your consultants calls the 'candidate' asking if he's interested in a job! You're quickly lose a client over this type of behaviour.

 

I mean - what happens if you have a candidate - who also has a record as a client at the same time - a very important client. Then one of your consultants calls the 'candidate' asking if he's interested in a job! You're quickly lose a client over this type of behaviour.

Steve, valid concern. I think there are controls in place that would make this unlikely/easily prevented. If this is a candidate that became a client contact, the candidate's pipeline will show him/her as placed at the client. You can also make the candidate record inactive immediately after placement.

I agree that it would be beneficial for a contact/candidate to be able to move back and forth between candidate and contact status and have the historical information, resume, etc. remain linked. From a usability standpoint, I definitely like that CATS separates the contact and candidate records. I wouldn't want to see those tabs merged. I worked with a popular system that had one "People" tab and caused problems.

 
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A lot of debate and by that I mean days and days of discussions took place at the beginning of CATS design. I wanted a clean user interface and a clean database model. The only way it was possible was to keep the candidate and contact as separate entities. They are two completely, and I mean completely different roles in real life and as actors in the system.

I must confess also that keeping them separate made the initial implementation of CATS user-interface and the underlying architecture simple, so I made the choice to go this route. Now I do agree that its not an ideal situation, and I wish in retrospect that we could have come up with something more elegant. We just didn't know how!

I think the concern regarding a person going back and forth between a candidate and contact is a valid one and deserves to be reviewed again. I don't know if there's an easy solution to the problem. We implemented the Candidate<->Contact record linking capability a couple of years ago based on similar requests from customers.

We should look in to the issue again to see if this could be further improved..Please keep in mind that this is an incredibly complex issue, behind the scenes so don't expect anything even close to perfection, if we come up with any improvements.

Asim

 
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Our solution for the problem has been proposed but is waiting to be implemented. It includes:

1) Candidate and contact are still saved separately; however, a candidate can be made into a contact and vice versa with the click of a button or en masse, thus creating a "linked record".

2) When viewing a candidate, it appears as it does now. Candidates are for the hiring role, so the list of jobs and activities regarding hiring are shown; however, because the candidate is a "linked record" tabs appear across the top of the page titled:

i) Candidate (greyed out as you're already viewing it)
ii) Contact
iii) Merged

3) If you click the "Contact" tab, you view the contact record with the tabs just like above, except contact is greyed out.

4) If you click the "Merged" tab, you view a special merged record. This record shows all the data from both candidate AND contact merged into one. Custom fields for both are shown. The two first name (and other shared) fields are combined into one. Activities are combined into a single section. Attachments are also combined. Job orders are combined, but each job order lists the role of whether the person is a contact or applicant for the job. If applicant, the status appears like on the candidates page.

5) When editing any of the three tabs, changing fields that the other has in common is automatically synced. So if a person moves, you can update the address in the candidate, contact or merge record and it will be saved to all three places.

6) The merge record is sticky, so if you prefer viewing the "Merge" tab when looking at linked records, it will remember this and show you only this version going forward, until you change it.

In my opinion, this is the best of both worlds. It saves both records to comply with our internal procedures and separates the business logic; but it gives those who prefer a single "person" record the flexibility to completely remove any visibility of the separation and instead view a single, consolidated record.

 

Perfect solution Andrew! I can't wait. No seriously, I can't wait.

 
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This is now available.

1) Click on the "Settings" tab.
2) Click on "Administration" (blue bar).
3) Click on "General Configuration".
4) Enable the "Merge" feature (about 4 down).

Now, when viewing a candidate or contact record, you'll have the option to merge that record into it's pair. It will try to find a duplicate first -- if it cannot, it will add a new record. Once there's a merge, you can view and edit a "Merged" record which includes all the fields, extra fields, attachments, activities, jobs, etc. from both records merged into one page.


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